but i´m also glad he was piper´s and leo´s son that kinda made him more likeable to me.. cause he was suddenly kinda part of the family, you know what I mean??

That's exactly how I feel about it. Even if he had been say Paige or Phoebe's child I don't think it would have been the same though. They put such a signifigance on Piper and Leo having kids, such as Wyatt being the twice blessed and all that it just seems to make Chris even more important since he belonged to them too. Then again I may feel that way because none of Paige or Phoebe's kids have been born yet so we never got to know them.

Yeah but on the other hand... If Chris hadn't been Piper's son, he wouldn't have to be born at the end of season 6, and that means he maybe wouldn't have died and stayed a season longer... who knows...???

You know honestly the fact that Chris was being born doesn't seem to me to be a good enough reason why he would have to leave. I mean, in future episodes we see both Chris' and both Wyatts at the same time and nothing catastophic happens. I honestly feel that they were just wanting to write his character off the show at that time and they used it as an excuse. Maybe they didn't think they'd be able to fit him into the future storylines they had in mind. And also, we do have to take into consideration that after Wyatt was saved there really wouldn't have been any reason for him to stay around. I just wish that they had stretched that season into two seasons because alot of it seemed rushed to me. Heck they could have used costumes to make Holly appear to still be pregnant after she had her baby.

Okay, now I'm just rambling. Enough said for now.

M.

yeah, you´re right chrissy the ending really WAS brilliant.. But soo sad ( i was cryin and cryin.. it was so emotional.. that whole Gideon-thing.. I was so shocked when it was clear that HE was the evil one... the one who wanted to kill wyatt.. i mean, i never really liked him, but after what he did to wyatt and leo and chris i hated him.. altough he din´t survive..
and to come back to our actuall discussion, it really would have been kinda weird if the young and the older chris would have been there at the same time..like chrissy said it would have been hard to explain..

Yeah, I know you guys are right. Having them both there at the same time would have seemed strange but then again it could have made for some comical moments too.

And yes, the way they ended it was very brilliant. The only thing that bothers me about it though is a theory I have about it. Now bear with me here because it's long and probably not correct at all, but I have put some thought into it. Before anyone asks I write alot of fan-fiction so that is why I have been disecting the pros and cons of Chris' death so I can best decide how to go with my own stories.

My Theory:

If future Chris had went back to his own timeline he would have retained his memories from his past timeline and also gained the memories from the changed future. Yes, that might confuse him a bit at first but all in all he'd pretty much stay the same guy that we all know and love. That same old neurotic half witch - half whitelighter. But since future chris never went back and the future was changed that meant that there was no reason for him to have ever traveled back into time to save Wyatt and his whole past was changed for the better. But since our life experiences help to shape us into who we become wouldn't that mean that the new Chris would not be the same as the one we all fell in love with? I mean morally he would be on the same keel but I believe that the horrible events from his original past helped to give him the strength and determination that you see in him. It just makes me sad to think that the new Chris is changed in anyway. I loved the way he was even if he was a bit neurotic, angsty, and slightly childish at times.

Anyhow that's just my theory and as I said I only put that much thought into it so I could decide how to write my own stuff. To most people it probably wouldn't make that much of a difference but I really tend to overanalyze alot of stuff especially when it comes to writing.

M.

M, you´re totally right! i mean, I´ve never thought of that before but now that you mention it.. it´s right..
i mean, i´m also sure that the horrible events of chris in his past made him the guy he was when he came to the halliwells.. so..he would never have been the same if he hadn´t had to travel to the past to save the future..
but i think that the writers haven´t thought as far as you did M. they just wanted chris to die after he had saved his future and they didn´t think of the consequences.. but you´re right and by the way, i would love to read a few of you´re fan fictions about charmed!! im often reading fan fictions at a german site but they´re not so good.. so could you post some in the fan-fiction thread??

Thanks, ChrisFan, I'm a die hard fan-fiction writer. It's just about my favorite thing to do. At this time I don't have any Charmed stories finished but I have a series of 3 stories I've started on plus a standalone revelation fic. I do need to at least get the first chapter or so up on the first one. I'm probably gonna upload it to ffnet and also to my own site very soon. When I do I'll add the links to the fan-fiction section here.

I'm glad you can see my theory and that it makes sense. I was worried that I was overthinking it. But it's a theory I tend to live by in a way myself "I wouldn't be the person I am today if it wasn't for the mistakes I made in my past." Seems to be my catchphrase.

Anyhow, I'll post those links when I get them up.

M.

I read your story and it´s just great.. really!! so as i already wrote in the fanfiction-thread, hurry with the next part!!

I promise. I will hurry just for you. But today I have to play computer tech and work on my computer which hates me.

So once that is finished I have some administrative work to do on my own website then I am free to write, I hope.

M.

great! so im really looking forward to reading youre story^^
and don´t be too angry on your computer, it sure doesn´t want to torment you

Well *Chrisfan* if you love fanfiction you should check out "ours" (see my sig)... *clearing-throat* But this is really NOT THE RIGHT PLACE for this... so stay in the topic please...!

@Meluivan: I understand your theory... Well we had that discussion lots of times here... some believe that Chris's memories survied in the new Chris(mostly because of the way he was in the finale)... But yes the new Chris has a new life and could be therefore a slightly different person... But who knows...

Personally, if you really pay attention to what is being said, they made those little slip ups all the time. I've been watching the show from day one, and I thought that something was odd about the whole Paige being killed by the titans then later Chris saying that she was who he went to for money but then I got to thinking. Chris couldn't let them know why he came to the past, or who he was when he arrived. I think that I would say the same thing if I were in his shoes...

I agree. Also I agree about that they could've had Chris stay in one more season. You know move season 6's season finale for season seven's and have that one be season 8's finale. That way Billie would've been coming in season 9 and we would have had two seasons of Chris. The next season would have tied in every loose thread from season five's finale up to season 6. I read that they had merged (you know the old future chris and the new Chris in the changed future). Maybe he had memories of the old future because when he came back with Wyatt he didn't seem surprised to find himself back in time. He knew what he was doing and since he did see Grams before he knew it was her, while Wyatt has never summoned Grams probably (though I was confused by that.)

You know it seemed to me that if Chris had traveled back he'd merge both sets of memories, but it doesn't make sense to me that his memories could be merged if the original died. I figured those memories would die with him.

But you are right about him seeming to know stuff that Wyatt didn't in the finally.

I'm thinking it's just one of those things that they just did without real explaination. But it still bugs me.

M.

maybe the memories were merged. I don't know. Just wish they would've explained it further in the show.

The whole Paige dying could of been true... then by him saving her, his own memories would of been changed because if she hadn't died he'd not be able to remember it happening... and gained the new memories. By him changing events he changed himself.


Also the baby Chris... he would of still had to of returned to the past when he was adult Chris' age cause that event still happened and so the adult Chris would need to carry it out still or past Wyatt would turn evil... changing everything.

Confusing maybe when you think of timelines haha.